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Vallis Mariae

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:46 am
by Australian
Is this still a Lithops or is it now a Dinteranthus?

Here it is listed as Dinteranthus:
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/sear ... /0/match/0

Re: Vallis Mariae

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:41 pm
by brom
This is still Lithops and not Dinteranthus.
L. vallis mariae is related to L. pseudotruncatella, by the ssp. groendrayensis.

Re: Vallis Mariae

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:52 pm
by pvdw
brom wrote:This is still Lithops and not Dinteranthus.
L. vallis mariae is related to L. pseudotruncatella, by the ssp. groendrayensis.


I have it the same as Brom. Planted some seeds a week ago. Lets hold thumbs.

Re: Vallis Mariae

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:42 am
by Australian
I asked Terry Smale by email about this issue. He confirmed that L. vallis mariae is still a Lithops. The confusion created on the Catalogue of Life was based on a controversial article written by Brian Fearn on the MSG Bulletin a few years ago in which he interprets some controversial DNA results on L. vallis mariae. The compilers of the Catalogue of Life, who are clearly not Lithops experts, were mislead by the content of the article. I still need to look for it to see how the content of that article was written. If it was done in a speculative fashion, but the Catalogue of Life took it as a definitive proof, then they created confusion. This is the problem with huge databases on plants.

Re: Vallis Mariae

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:09 am
by brom
Australian wrote:He confirmed that L. vallis mariae is still a Lithops.

Then Terry Smale did not tell you anything new either.


pvdw wrote:Planted some seeds a week ago. Lets hold thumbs.

I keep my fingers crossed for you 8-) and hope for photos!
I also did it in September, here is a picture of my C166

C166_22.11.2017.jpg

Re: Vallis Mariae

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:20 am
by pvdw
Firts news regarding my seeds. This morning the first 3 seedlings were looking at me from behind the small stones/gravel covering the seeds. They are still way to small for a pick but it will follow soon 8-)

Re: vallis-mariae

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:16 am
by brom
:D 8-)